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Chan vs. Bell

Former pastor and author Francis Chan has jumped into the debate on heaven, hell and eternal punishment with book titled Erasing Hell: What God Said About Eternity and the Things We've Made Up to be released in July. Although he doesn't directly mention Rob Bell's controversial book, Love Wins, in a YouTube video discussing the topic, Chan expresses concern for carelessness in discussing eternal matters.

"We can't just have these theological discussions about a doctrine when we're talking about people's eternal destinies here," he said. "We've got to lay everything on the table, I want to just present all of the facts, everything I can think of in this book [holding a Bible] and let you decide, not sway you."

In an interview in Relevant magazine, Chan admitted that Bell's book challenged him and caused him go back to the Bible to reexamine his views on hell.

"This whole study has been so sobering to me," he noted. "Some things I feel more strong about, and other things I realized, 'OK, I always thought that was a lot clearer than that,' and it wasn’t."

But Chan's study led him to a more solid belief in a literal hell and eternal punishment for unrepentant sinners—as well as a deeper awareness of scriptural warnings for believers.

"It’s a very real. It is a place we need to avoid at all costs. It is a terrifying thought to fall into the hand of the Living God as Scripture tells us," he noted. "But I was also surprised that these passages are really written to people who call themselves believers. Usually we only talk about Hell in this evangelistic, 'I’m going to preach the gospel' and 'Hell, fire and brimstone' to these unbelievers, but these passages really were written to those who called themselves the church. It’s a very sobering thought, and a very interesting warning."

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0 #7 SoM 2012-04-29 09:15
Quoting Mike Rankin:
Mike! Thought you might find this article and Ytube interesting in light of our discussions on "HELL!"
Also Francis Chan has other Ytube to the right side
of article!
Wow! I pity Bell unless he changes his mind on HELL!


We do not read the Bible the way it is; we read it the way we are. --Evelyn Uyemura
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-1 #6 SoM 2012-04-29 09:10
If you combine a carnal view to scripture with fear, blind ego, self-righteous pride, a hidden desire for vengeance and spark the religious engine with a pharisitical spirit. You get a determined believer of hell. To suppose that God would bring beings into existence for both His purpose and pleasure who He knew in advance without mercy would be infinite losers by that existence, is to charge him a hypocrite with the utmost malignity. The Holy Book of the living God suffers more from its exponents today than from its opponents. Yet it is not at all incredible, that a book which has been so long in the possession of mankind should contain many truths as yet undiscovered. I have heard many of those who call themselves christians say that on judgment day, Christ will cast His enemies into hell. So much for loving, blessing and forgiving our enemies when Christ cannot. As a matter of fact, so much for turning the other cheek if eternal hell is real.
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-3 #5 B.J.Stone 2011-06-14 08:23
No one, including Rob Bell, could attempt writing in continuation of man's 'conspiracy' against God & of His Word IN THE MANNER IN WHICH HE HAS, SO FAR, WITHOUT companionship. ALSO, EXPOSURE TO PENTECOST by at least one 'companion' who also has been FULLY exposed to PENTECOST in one way or another !
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-2 #4 B.J.Stone 2011-06-14 08:18
In garden #1,Adam was 'placed'(NON-pentecostal church setting of 'initial' repentence,'blood covenant')where Adam first had choices as 'twice born man'.Receive baptismS in HS, alienate that world of 'blood covenant',or run from God. He ran(this time was 'seized','snatched' into Garden #2,representing pentecostalism he had rejected of HS).He previously had fled NON-pentecostal setting (complaining was lonely).God gave him 'helpmate'(this time in penecost).He introduced her to blood 'covenant' distain toward continual ceremony,bringing both UNashamed 'nakedness'(no 'skins').This similar setting pentecostalism TODAY presents' also has 'forked tongued' one awaiting those who have rejected 'blood covenant' ONGOING in 'initial' repentence, while running from God(adopting some form of eternal security).God chases him, places THEM, in a garden of even 'greater temptation'(this time with companionship,turning 'rebellion' into 'conspiracy')
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+1 #3 Mike Bennett 2011-06-14 06:02
In the garden, Adam and Eve were given a choice. In the simplest terms, the choice before them was to trust wholly in God (tree of life), or trust in their own knowledge/understanding, judging God for themselves rather than trusting in him (tree of knowledge of good and evil). The serpent tempted them with doubt (and they bit!). As God had warned, rejecting Him and trusting in their own knowledge (i.e.- judging God) comes with consequences... death! Since that time, the earth has been filled to overflowing with all manner of wickedness resulting in unspeakable suffering; murder, rape, torture, disease, hunger etc. If people have trouble reconciling the idea of a loving God sending people to hell, how do they reconcile this same loving God allowing all of the outrageous suffering that goes on in the world each day? Here is how I do it... DO NOT JUDGE GOD! Instead, "Trust in the LORD with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding".
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-2 #2 B.J.Stone 2011-06-14 00:46
'Reformed' catholic nicolaitans still being trained to have some form of background in 'eternal security'(similar to Calvin,ALSO loopholes in 'reformed' Catholic Arminianisms)to be applied & taught still today,are 'prone to error',are 'anti-anointing',remaining separates from true Pentecostalisms.When either R.Bell, B.Graham are separated from by former friends,or even evangelists like CharlesTempleton,they tend to look toward some variety of Universalism in hopes for their former friend, friends. However,their whole semenary experience had same major flaws already! ANYONE TAUGHT THAT THIS EARTH ITSELF DOES NOT HAVE SUDDEN END TO IT'S AGE(AS JC TAUGHT)THAT IN ONE HR,OF ONE PARTICULAR 24 HR. DAY FUTURE(FATHER KNOWS)THESE HEAVENS WILL SUDDENLY BE ON FIRE,THIS TINY PLANET WILL MELT WITH FERVENT HEAT, BECOME NO LONGER HABITABLE FOR HUMAN EXISTENCE ANYMORE(HABITABLE AS ETERNAL LAKE OF FIRE FOR DEVIL,HIS ANGELS) YET are under God sent dillusions to this globe,last days
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-1 #1 Mike Rankin 2011-06-13 22:59
Mike! Thought you might find this article and Ytube interesting in light of our discussions on "HELL!"
Also Francis Chan has other Ytube to the right side
of article!
Wow! I pity Bell unless he changes his mind on HELL!
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